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Post by Desk-Boy! on Mar 14, 2024 21:31:15 GMT -6
Hey you guys! Long time, no see. I found this link on my phone, I have no idea where I found this page years ago.
Is Jesse still around? I figure he’s either at home watching The Secret Storm or whatever that show was he was obsessed with, or he’s in the slammer with his Crawfordville flunkies. Maybe Flo baked him a cake with a saw in it.
Hopefully somebody’s around to see this but like Oliver at the ol’ Superman Returns board, I doubt anyone is here 24/7.
Popping in to say hey!
Yer pal, D-B!
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Post by mh on Mar 14, 2024 22:02:24 GMT -6
ghhhhh!!! d-b?!! "what are you doing?!!" as edm used to say. jesse reappears as 'blackvault' (remember when he was 'killing spree'?)every so often, writes gillzillions of reams of indecipherable christine ballanton tales, and disappears again for long to quite long lengths of time. i'd love to hear your take on the pander-verse and the m-she-u. good to see you super-jimmy, old freind!
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Post by Desk-Boy! on Mar 15, 2024 20:45:37 GMT -6
The m-she-u, yeah.
In my book, the Marvel movies ended with Endgame. They had a good run, but after that it all went off the rails.
The first problem is they burned through all of their best characters already. Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, all done. And they burned through good second stringers like the Hulk, Hawkeye, Scarlett Witch and the Vision. And they went all scorched earth and killed IM, made Cap an old man and Thor fat and drunk when they kicked them to the curb.
That leaves the D-list characters. The Eternals, Shang Chi, and fake Captain Marvel. I never read Shang Chi, so no interest. I did get some Eternals when that started, but bleh, I don’t give two shits about a movie about them.
And before they even made the Eternals I knew it wasn’t something I’d be interested in when I read an interview with a producer bragging that there wasn’t going to be one straight white male in the cast. I read that and thought that’s not a good selling point.
I get they are trying to be inclusive, but at the same time they are saying they are purposely cutting out people like me. Rule number one: KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE! I’d bet that the overwhelming majority of their audience are straight males, and they seem to be avoiding them like the plague.
But I still like C-list characters like fake Captain Marvel and Yellowjacket, but they already took a big steaming dump on Yellowjacket and their Captain Marvel is the female copy of the Jim Starlin version. And the Starlin version still made it on film but played by Annette Benning. HUH?!? Can you stop changing races and sexes of characters that are decades old?!?
When all this stuff was originally announced, they kept telling us how interconnected they would be. Everybody I know loved that, but I said it could be a problem if you have to see all of it to understand what’s going on, and I might not want to see all of it.
That came true. Their tv shows? I’m not paying for a channel to watch the Vision and Scarlett Witch, I don’t care enough. And Falcon America, I don’t do replacement characters, I want the classics. Cap giving the Falcon the shield doesn’t make him Captain America, a guy with wings and a shield doesn’t make him the living legend of World War II. I felt the same way when Dick Grayson replaced Bruce Wayne in the comics. Not interested in pretender Batman, I want the real deal.
Anyway, all that connectivity to shows I’m not interested turned me off, it felt like it was a chore to keep up with it all.
And coming up, the Fantastic Four. One of my all-time favorite comics. This should be foolproof. Sci-fi movie about a family of adventurers. But you know Disney won’t allow a family of straight white people. You know they won’t be able to resist a gay Human Torch yelling FLAME ON! I guess Reed will be Hispanic, Sue will be trans and Ben will be Muslim to check all the boxes.
After that they will do the X-Men again, and you know they will gay that up.
On a sad note, I want you to know that our old friend Chaku passed away in 2013. He is greatly missed.
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Post by mh on Mar 16, 2024 5:06:06 GMT -6
The m-she-u, yeah. In my book, the Marvel movies ended with Endgame. They had a good run, but after that it all went off the rails. The first problem is they burned through all of their best characters already. Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, all done. And they burned through good second stringers like the Hulk, Hawkeye, Scarlett Witch and the Vision. And they went all scorched earth and killed IM, made Cap an old man and Thor fat and drunk when they kicked them to the curb. That leaves the D-list characters. The Eternals, Shang Chi, and fake Captain Marvel. I never read Shang Chi, so no interest. I did get some Eternals when that started, but bleh, I don’t give two shits about a movie about them. And before they even made the Eternals I knew it wasn’t something I’d be interested in when I read an interview with a producer bragging that there wasn’t going to be one straight white male in the cast. I read that and thought that’s not a good selling point. I get they are trying to be inclusive, but at the same time they are saying they are purposely cutting out people like me. Rule number one: KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE! I’d bet that the overwhelming majority of their audience are straight males, and they seem to be avoiding them like the plague. But I still like C-list characters like fake Captain Marvel and Yellowjacket, but they already took a big steaming dump on Yellowjacket and their Captain Marvel is the female copy of the Jim Starlin version. And the Starlin version still made it on film but played by Annette Benning. HUH?!? Can you stop changing races and sexes of characters that are decades old?!? When all this stuff was originally announced, they kept telling us how interconnected they would be. Everybody I know loved that, but I said it could be a problem if you have to see all of it to understand what’s going on, and I might not want to see all of it. That came true. Their tv shows? I’m not paying for a channel to watch the Vision and Scarlett Witch, I don’t care enough. And Falcon America, I don’t do replacement characters, I want the classics. Cap giving the Falcon the shield doesn’t make him Captain America, a guy with wings and a shield doesn’t make him the living legend of World War II. I felt the same way when Dick Grayson replaced Bruce Wayne in the comics. Not interested in pretender Batman, I want the real deal. Anyway, all that connectivity to shows I’m not interested turned me off, it felt like it was a chore to keep up with it all. And coming up, the Fantastic Four. One of my all-time favorite comics. This should be foolproof. Sci-fi movie about a family of adventurers. But you know Disney won’t allow a family of straight white people. You know they won’t be able to resist a gay Human Torch yelling FLAME ON! I guess Reed will be Hispanic, Sue will be trans and Ben will be Muslim to check all the boxes. After that they will do the X-Men again, and you know they will gay that up. On a sad note, I want you to know that our old friend Chaku passed away in 2013. He is greatly missed.
we did talk about chaku way back when. sad how many we've lost in the years since.
about the fantastic four. when all is said and done, the roger corman ff test film remains the best fantastic four movie i've ever seen!
and john krasinski from 'the office' was a great reed richards! why replace him with pedro pascal ? reed richards is the smartest man alive! pedro pascal looks like he'd have a hard time getting as associates degree
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Post by Desk-Boy! on Mar 17, 2024 13:19:05 GMT -6
I saw the Roger Corman FF a long time ago, but I don’t remember a whole lot about it, I’m not sure I finished it. Yeah, Jim from the Office would have been good as Reed (shave the beard), I think if they get Pedro shaved and a decent haircut he might be okay.
Chaku, his brother and I used to do about 5 road trips a year going to comicons, we’d also go to any places on interest nearby: baseball games, museums, battlefields, etc. we went to places like Pittsburgh, Charlotte, NC, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Boston and Orlando.
Our mission was to meat as many classic comic creators as possible. We each had a portfolio of scanned images of favorite comics for the artists (and sometimes writers) to sign, we did this for years my book is very impressive.
I won’t bore you with a complete list of who we met, but I keep a running list of those who passed away after we met them. There are a few non-comic book people…
1. Marshall Rogers
2. Stan Lee
3. Darwyn Cooke
4. Mart Nodell
5. Joe Kubert
6. Russ Heath
7. Nick Cardy
8. Gene Colan
9. Dave Cockrum
10. Irwin Hasen
11. Mort Drucker
12. Al Feldstein
13. George Tuska
14. Robert Culp
15. Dick Giordano
16. Jerry Robinson
17. Herb Trimpe
18. Carmine Infantino
19. Rich Buckler
20. Joe Simon
21. Basil Gogos
22. Norm Breyfogle
23. Len Wein
24. Bernie Wrightson
25. Al Plastino
26. Ernie Chan
27. Murphy Anderson
28. Adam West
29. George Romero
30. Frank McLaughlin
31. Dick Ayers
32. Earl Norem
33. Denny O’Neil
34. Joe Sinnott
35. John Paul Leon
36. Neal Adams
37. George Perez
38. Tim Sale
39. Nichelle Nichols
40. Tom Palmer
41. Carlos Pacheco
42. Al Jafee
43. Joe Giella
44. John Romita
45. Keith Giffen
46. Ramona Fradon
47. Richard Lewis
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Post by Desk-Boy! on Mar 17, 2024 13:22:46 GMT -6
Meet creators, not meat them, Guh.
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Post by mh on Mar 18, 2024 0:39:05 GMT -6
wow, a lot of giants on that list. good ol' ernie chan. working as chau. if you see any 'batman' in the bargain bin from that period it was a fun run. did you ever meet jim sterenko? i think if i had, i'd have kissed him right on ther mouth.
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Post by Desk-Boy! on Mar 18, 2024 13:21:21 GMT -6
I have a butt-load of Ernie Chua Batman comics. When I made these scanned art pages for them to sign , I typed their name at the bottom. His says “Ernie Chua/Chan.” I read once that the name mixup started by somebody misreading the name.
I met Steranko a long time ago. He’s a bit of a foppish dandy the way he prances around in his fancy clothes and big hair. I got all those signatures a long time ago when they were free, I don’t do it anymore (I got all the great ones and I don’t care about most of the newer guys), but they all charge now.
But! Years ago they were just beginning to charge. I didn’t like to pay, but would for a big name. When I got something signed, it was usually 3 things: a page for my book, a small reproduction of a comic to frame, and an artist’s page in an art of Batman book if they were in it.
When I got Neal Adam’s sig, he signed the first two for free, third one was 5 bucks. I got three signed, stepped to the side to pay either his wife or kid. But they were too busy dicking around and ignored me, so I walked away. My pal got something signed behind me, he went to pay, I told him they weren’t interested in taking the money, so walk. So I stiffed Neal Adams? So be it! Last time I saw him before he died I think he was only signing a book of his, $200 bucks.
With Carmine Infantino, one sig was free, the second was 10 bucks. I got my scanned page signed, thanked him and left. Twenty minutes later I went by and got the Bat book signed. I figure I was due a freebie because I had bought their work for decades.
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Post by Desk-Boy! on Apr 4, 2024 9:00:15 GMT -6
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Post by Babu_Baboon on Apr 4, 2024 20:31:28 GMT -6
I'm out, too. This has Disney/Marvel wokefest written all over it. Reed will probably be a villain by the end.
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Post by Desk-Boy! on Apr 5, 2024 8:49:23 GMT -6
I’ve seen at least one article saying give this casting a chance, that people hated Michael Keaton being cast as Batman, he turned out okay, maybe the Surfer casting will too.
Sure, Keaton worked out fine, but should that always be the rule? To purposely cast somebody completely wrong for the part every time? Geez, keep it simple, stupid! Cast a person who resembles the character, it ain’t rocket science!
Others say that the Surfer was a woman in one storyline, so it’s okay. Oh, so you are basing this on one story versus almost 60 years of the way he’s usually presented? Box checking at its finest!
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Post by Babu_Baboon on Apr 5, 2024 15:49:46 GMT -6
It almost feels like they're trying to tank the films with all the crap that didn't work in the comics....
Saam Wilson Captain America
unfunny She-Hulk
Carol Danvers Captain Marvel
SHalla Bal Silver Surfer
current Ms Marvel
craazy overpowered Scarlet Witch
Hey, Thor was a frog at one point... lets get aa big old cgi 6'4 frog Thor in there, too, while we're at it!
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Post by mh on Apr 5, 2024 23:25:19 GMT -6
It almost feels like they're trying to tank the films with all the crap that didn't work in the comics.... Saam Wilson Captain America unfunny She-Hulk Carol Danvers Captain Marvel SHalla Bal Silver Surfer current Ms Marvel craazy overpowered Scarlet Witch Hey, Thor was a frog at one point... lets get aa big old cgi 6'4 frog Thor in there, too, while we're at it!
was she-hulk attorney at law, a direct steal from harvey birdman, attorney at law ?!!
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Post by Babu Baboon on Apr 8, 2024 7:06:31 GMT -6
It almost feels like they're trying to tank the films with all the crap that didn't work in the comics.... Saam Wilson Captain America unfunny She-Hulk Carol Danvers Captain Marvel SHalla Bal Silver Surfer current Ms Marvel craazy overpowered Scarlet Witch Hey, Thor was a frog at one point... lets get aa big old cgi 6'4 frog Thor in there, too, while we're at it! was she-hulk attorney at law, a direct steal from harvey birdman, attorney at law ?!!
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